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Continuing the discussion from What defines a Seastead:

Although there have been many marine powers in human history, (Minoic, Phoenizian, Polinesian, Vikings, Venice, Spain, Portugal, England) none of them developed floating cities to create oceanic trade hubs, and control marine commerce Venice style.

This seems not to be logic in the first thought, but it becomes clear when we remember that the only availble building material for floating structures in those times was wood - a fast victim to the Teredo worm (within 16 weeks) and biofouling that made permanent floating structures a dream impossible to achive. Even with this ridicoulusly short lifespan, of somtimes just 16 weeks life expectance at sea, marine empires where built on the value and power of wooden ships.

Steelbuilding of floating structures introduced by Isambard Brunel in 1845 made floating structures a bit longer lasting - steel ships can have a maintenance free service life of some 5 years (Prelude LNG floating industrial plant) and a total service life of some 15-30 years (includes plating renewal and constant repair of fatique cracks ) until they are “structurally gone” to the point of scrap.

But this is still a “poor service life” for a floating real estate development. Real estate development requires a service life of hundereds of years (similar to land buildings).

Modern concrete floating structures can deliver the necessary service lifespan to make oceanic real estate development feasible.

floating concepts:
/ Lens shell pictures overview / / Ramform floating home pictures / / c-shell floating home pictures / / Floating concrete building methods / / shell cluster pictures / / investor proposal list /

Get a foothold in ocean colonization:

The Captain Nemo Lifestyle:

Why oceanic business is the next big thing to come:

Ocean sphere fish farming:

Ocean colonization gallery:

http://imulead.com/tolimared/concretesubmarine/picturegallery/concept/

Big things have small beginnings ocean colonization transition, potential:

Sustainability on Planet Earth only the oceans can safe us:

Free spirited oceanic lifestyle global mobility:

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Pricepoints, building method groups, tests, pilot projects, outstanding projects…

http://concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/t57819473/floating-concrete-platforms-building-methods/

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real estate primary seasteading business

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seasteading, floating real estate, bottleneck, wood hulls, steel hulls, concrete hulls, permanent dwellings at sea feasible, first time in history, marine powers, never got beyond short lifespan ships, our generation can do this, our generation can do better, get a permanent foothold in ocean colonization, go beyond transport, the potential of identifying a key bottleneck in technology development and open it ... investors are the key element, not politics, evolutionary aproach, develop it slow, singularity aproach kick it off,

A new development can only happen on base of new technology - todays new technolgy (not available to historic marine powers) is on the table - concrete honeycomb shell building the ONLY technology allowing for "permanent dwellings at sea".

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Seasteading culture, politics, business ambient - read more here:

http://concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/t59285592/a-seastead-is-business-cluster-network/

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http://concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/t59290740/seasteading-ocean-colonization-technology-bottleneck/

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/ Lens shell pictures overview / / Ramform floating home pictures / / c-shell floating home pictures / / Floating concrete building methods /

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The main problem as I see it, is the lack of any sort of infrastructure TO build any single type of structure that would be considered a suitable form of ‘seastead’, other than adapting oil-rig designs, or cruise ships.

The only way I can build my concept is to build that infrastructure, then build the first of a series of similar structures.

With all the talk of inhabiting the seas, there is nobody willing to put forth venture capitol to invest in the infrastructure.

Build a digital design, then a scale model and you get the ooohs and aaahs, but they want the model of the mechanism to automate it, too.

Now, before you can get backing, you’re out, say $50K, to build a prototype model of a device, just to prove the construction technique works, then you build a 2nd scale model prototype, using that scale machinery, to prove it works, for another $10K.

Then everything has to be patented, copyrighted and trademarked, before the venture capitol ever begins, at which point it becomes corporate property and somebody in finance says we have t cut the budget, so guess what hits the chopping-block?

Suppose the first one of any design costs $500K, then the infrastructure was another $500K. It won’t matter that the 2nd one cost half as much and the 4th cost 20% of the first, what matters is the initial $1M to build a system and a thing that have never existed, but without the initial, say $75K-$100K, to simply build working models, nothing gets done.

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there is no second life as steastead for ships or oil rigs…

that is not necessaryly so 7,2 billion investment in oceanic business infrastucture…

where are you certainly right is that kind of money will not be available for salon talkers and floatie goofers - type seasteaders… we need to look up from the plate and an check on “marine business”…

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no - i can tell you from personal experience that if you have a well thought and credible project you can get backing at any stage and at any amount…part of my oceanic business alliance project is to seperate the rubbish from the serious projects and give interested investors a portfolio of options for investing in projects that are not “dominated by goofers” but allow to get a foothold in ocean colonization instead…so if you have a serious project to propose this is a space where you can talk to “interested investors” without getting drowned in “goofy posting” - only serious people have access and word here.

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My apologies. Would you like for me to start a topic, or do you have one for me? I was invited and was expressing the topic as I see it, and have run up against, with other concepts, concerning the financial bottleneck.

Since my concept requires relatively specific features, there are only so many ways to build it. I’ve come across a method that can be modified for my design, making the construction a more or less a continuous process. All of my ideas center on adapting a unique combination of concepts, materials, and practices, for better efficiency of producing several seafood species for mass-market.

Seasteading will require food production, while, once operational, the production phase of my concept can be applied to aid the need for fresh food, nearly world wide, and would first find use as a commercial aquaculture for existing markets, then be applied to seasteading, as well.

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@JL_Frusha - please open a topic in the debate space and go ahead…this here is pretended to be a info collection space rather then a debate…

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Get a foothold in ocean colonization:

http://concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/t49529137/oceanic-frontier-develpment-investment-foothold-in-ocean-col/

The Captain Nemo Lifestyle:

http://concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/t43942461/the-captain-nemo-float-out-seasteading/

Why oceanic business is the next big thing to come:

http://concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/t56680633/the-reasons-why-oceanic-business-is-the-next-big-thing-to-co/

Ocean sphere fish farming:

http://concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/t55433095/ocean-sphere-the-next-wave-of-sustainable-fish-farming/

Ocean colonization gallery:

http://imulead.com/tolimared/concretesubmarine/picturegallery/concept/

Big things have small beginnings ocean colonization transition, potential:

http://concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/t58002383/big-things-have-small-beginnings-transition-capability-key-f/

Sustainability on Planet Earth only the oceans can safe us:

http://concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/t58921987/sustainability-population-growth-consumption-growth-ocean-co/

Free spirited oceanic lifestyle global mobility:

http://concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/t58935854/subdue-to-nobody/

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The four fundamental quests of ocean colonization : | The quest for interference freedom | The quest for mobility | The quest for oceanic resources | The quest for space on the planet |
The big five business fields of ocean colonization: | oceanic transport | oceanic energy | oceanic real estate | deep sea mining | oceanic aquaculture |
Concepts: / Lens shell pictures overview / / Ramform floating home pictures / / c-shell floating home pictures / / Floating concrete building methods / / shell cluster pictures / / investor proposal list /
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