@bob, can you please post a link to the picture you are talking about ? is assume it its this ? correct ? the thread is here
That is the one. +++++++++
@elwartowski, instead of these extreme thin, extreme low, super weak arms that have âhalf the size of a small boatâ in your pictures, and are for sure âfalling short to protect a harborâ you might consider something like this:
remember to have all those super weak boats and c-shells inside you need to offer âfishpond conditionsâ in the lagoon when a hurricane comes in, creates a 30 foot storm surge and the waves go over those low laying sandbanks in cay sal. The reason that these are sandbanks and not palm islands is that they get âoverwashed from time to timeâ. So long term plant life (like palm trees) can not exist.
Also keep in mind those c-shells inside the lagoon have no place to run to when a hurricane comes - so they need to be perfectly protected right where they are inside the lagoon
We can not change the program at this late state but when we build, it will be to teach us what these structures can take. The one Wil just posted above will most likely be what we end up with for the deep water (Our Own Country) version. The lens may end up free floating in the protected wake of a large Ramform but right now, we need to get the oars in the water. If we have to change it later then, we will but for now, we need to get our pilot project launched.
The c shell houseboats are just pictures. The real floats may have 4 to 6 houses and will be big enough to handle a good wave, inside the marina of course. After we finish with the pics for the website, we may want to begin talking about the housefloats.
I think it might be a concept error to make a final statement about the concept on the beginning of a project that is supposed to be a city with a lot of concepts and options in the end.
So instead of âarbitray picking out a thingâ we just should limit to point out that there is wide arrow of options ( shells shell clusters, lens, ramforms, combinations of all the mentioned) which all will have their âadequate frame of applicationâ - it seems only necessary to send a signal that we âunderstand the basicsâ which means that you can not park âfishpond marina architectureâ like C-shells and open walkways unprotected in the middle of hurricane alley⌠at the end our business case is âsolving the ocean colonization bottleneckâ
Envision the Arms (avenues) rather then open marina typ walkways something tubular like this foto with a âhard sideâ that can take waves looking outwards and the âsoft open glass sideâ looking inside to the lagoon
We can certainly continue upgrading the images when Mati gets back. But we have to go with what we have now so we can actually start looking for investors. Iâd rather not wait another 6 months.
When we get the final model we can always spend another $300 to get another set of pictures. I agree we should have a final concept instead of having a bunch of options. I never once saw on Shark Tank someone walk in with a bunch of pictures of products that they âcould makeâ and hope that the investors tell them what they want made.
I would think that it is our job to have a product to sell. We canât expect investors to decide for us.
keep it close to the original - if possible ⌠that was a good designâŚalterate only what is strictly necessary - avoid to go beyond realistic with the picturesâŚ
Thatâs where Mati needs to come in, I can only do basic things on Sketchup. I can only work with what he provides me.
As far as hurricanes go, do we really need to be too worried about 30 foot waves? I have a house on the ocean. It is on 14 foot stilts. I donât worry about 30 foot waves. I worry sometimes when hurricanes are on their way, my plan was always to move my stuff upstairs and evacuate if there was a hurricane incoming. But I didnât build a fortress to withstand a hurricane. Hardly anyone on the coast does.
When we talked of this in the past, I argued for a safe room so the platforms could go under a wave and the inhabitants would be safe. This is like a tornado in Kansas, they go underground.
Look at the tubular house, http://nautilusmaker.discoursehosting.net/uploads/db7580/650/adb199baeb3c822f.jpg
Picture this built on a 100â X100â (30m X 30m) platform with appropriate walls around the edge. This could go under a wave, replace some glass and furniture and youâre ready to go. We just have to remember to not have any edges on anything.
A tubular house like this will weather hurricanes as well as any. Little less glass of course. So long as each float has a water tight area to go to if bad weather comes, we should be alright.
Bob
yes a tubular shell bubble concept is pretty much what is ârequired minimumâ for hurricane alleyâŚ
proposing something like âfishpond marinaâ for âhurricane alleyâ is a bit âexposing our project to be ridiculizedâ⌠what is not a good business plan - so whenever we make a graphic statement paint such things INSIDE the protected lagoon of a ramform - NEVER outside and unprotectedâŚ
fishpond marina is a great concept for Cartagena Bay
which is a super protected bay OUTSIDE the hurricane routes - it is not feasible for Cay Sal which is in the center of the hurricane routes.
House in Galveston after the hurricane - you tell me - is ânot care much about hurricanesâ a feasible strategy ? - can we expect people to put money in real estate destinated to end this wayâŚ
The best strategy to combine fortress and openess is to have one side that can face a hurricane and another side that is open and glassâŚ
Picture it that way⌠in a shell
Picture it that way in a ramform
Picture it that way in a tubular c-shell
Some work on the quality of the rendering:
Preliminary images. There was some confusion about boats vs jet skis so sheâs going back and replacing the jet skis with some boats.
whow - that looks extremly nice without falling out of realistic - congrats ! - great work ! - i can imagine a 15m oceanic wave monster slamming into the bow area without creating more than a âlight sprayâ on the red jetskiâŚ