Hi @Cal Nice to see you here.
@admin As I understand it Cal is interested in business and progress oriented seasteads near large urban centers. many key elements in common. I suggested #marinea:mar-intro
Hi @Cal Nice to see you here.
@matias I post there just now. Thanks for tip.
@admin I have general interest in seasteading mostly from a business angle. I’m also blogging a little about the topic.
@Cal , are you willing to to some kind of project ( phase 1 ). - What sets our group ( oceanic business alliance ) apart from other parts of the movement is that we believe “political discussion” is basicly “good for nothing” . Ocean colonization will follow the VENICE model. So be driven by business and investment - not by “amazing salon talk” … The main axis of development will be the subdue to nobody lifestyle… let us hear your thouhgts…
What do you mean by project? I’m trying to blog and make media on business seasteading and opportunities. It’s a slow go at the moment. I could possibly make some write ups.
I’d love to build something but I don’t have the opposite at the moment.
Are there any projects in California going on?
Everything what is about doing something … ( oposite to TSI talking for 7 years - not floating out a single square meter )
would you like to join a group that is building something ?
- would you be willing to compromize ? - and if yes - to what point ?
I’d be interested in joining a group building or testing something in California. Other then media I’m not too useful though. I try to write about actual projects.
I’m probably not too good of a fit to this forum. I’ll keep to TSI forum. May I stay to read?
@Cal - this is a network where everybody fits in somehow - [quote=“Cal, post:8, topic:8313”]
May I stay to read
sure no problem… when you see something that interests you just opt in…
I know this forum is into doing things. Is there anything blogging wise I can do. I’m trying to post about it to people who don’t know about the topic.
@Cal - i see your activity on twitter and seasteading - and i am very happy that you are member of our network - ocean colonization is also a “communication effort” we need to communicate what we do, what we plan to do - and you definitly can play an important role on that. - To start with i will put your account to member status. - Is that OK with you ?
well of course. i m said to be a good visual communicator but when i write i rant. Wil is either oo brief or encyclopedic (check out concretesubmarine.com).
I think we are in need of a concize rational communicator. that s why i invited you.
@matias • @Cal • matias that sounds like a great thoughtline to me… we have 7,5 Billion individuals to communicate with - and our communication needs to be streamlined to bring the “right people” to our projects…
i believe we suffered some communication hiccups during 2015 with Marinea and though Im not familiar enough I ve heard Cal s podcasts and blogposts and already think of him as more in the same page as us than even Joe “Quirk”
Let me know of topics you’d like written about. I try to write in a way someone who’s never heard of seasteading could read it. Twitter is awesome cause it could reach new people.
@matias images do great with the hashtag architecture
I want to do podcasts so a few can be on seasteading.
I’m working on a few other topics so I hope I can introduce seasteading to new people.
I’m working on this media/ blog thing. its a slow climb up but by metrics I see I’m growing.
topics i am interested in
• solving the bottleneck
• building methods
• All questions investors have when funding a project
• all communication needs either to clear a tech issue, straighten out a perception error, or lure investors to projects, the rest is “nonsense talk and time waste”…
topics i am NOT interested
• politics in all its forms (my politics is get rid of politics in all its forms - this is what diferentiates me most from the TSI universe which thinks politics should be in the center stage
• talks with school kids and the kind of questions they have… (why does concrete not sink…is it brittle…)
• talks with anybody who is not really interested in get a project started (but interested primaryly in “talking about” and worse “merley phantasising and arguing about” utopic futures and political systems…that are not on the table (in phase 1-3) anyhow.
I am also antipathic to all violence, weapon and defense talk in context with floating platforms - i don’t see why this should be different to a shopping center where a nice uniformed private watchman does the job perfectly.
What sums up to that 90% of what is actually talked on the TSI forums is pure nonsense im my opinion.
So far from repeating that we should diferentiate.
this ambassadorial post http://discuss.seasteading.org/t/anti-corruption-infrastructure/1665/15 encapsulates most of what differentiates the Institute from the Ocean Colonization movement.
when I show ‘viable candidates’ some designs I get these two preconceptions:
- too expensive
- underwater means super complicated
we could begin with the expensive misconception.
@admin without getting too specific, can we continue using the ballpark pricepoints described in Building Methods and Picture Ramform Context? Picture ramform context
@admin this is the reason I invited him
@Cal those’d be the numbers for the ‘bare structure’ akin to a lot of beachfront undeveloped land.
@matias[quote=“matias, post:17, topic:8313”]
ballpark pricepoints described in Building Methods
Sure those pricepoints emerged as result of real world pilot projects (ref) they are the closest thing to a "realistic approach to oceanic real estate cost " we have… and the data looks “extremly promising”.
I really apreciate the twitter support your give me…
Indeed @Cal !
More pics and interesting subjects ahead
It is a long time since last contact | can you please give me an update ? | retake the conversation |
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