Lens cluster pictures

I would like the longer wings (avenues). Are we switching to wings now instead of avenues?

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For this first round of pictures do you want the model with the short wings or that last picture above?[/quote]

I would tend to the longer wings.

If these wings are only to break the waves then it is a cost without a direct return so we need to keep the cost low by using a lower height (AKA more fragile). However, we could make them stronger and have them do double duty. Consider using the ocean side of the wing for small businesses. Outside the businesses (Center of the wing) is the walking area which is also covered. On the inside of the wing would be an open platform that floating docks are linked to for housing and boat docks. Also a good place for a dry-dock.

25ft for the businesses, 15 ft for walk, 10 for open air platform = 50 ft (15m). 50 feet of cement at a 45 degree angle from the force direction would be formidable and pay for itself from property rents.

But what we are talking about here is what is good enough for the websites and other requirements. Ideally the pics would also represent the practical but it also cost more time, labor and money.

We need to strike a happy medium. We can show a solid wide avenue wing with windows or openings on the inside. That will indicate that there is more in there but not what it is.
Bob

Venice canale grande, the watersurface is completly calm and protected by the buildings around it - close to the water there is a “promenade” where people and commerce can circulate, and from that promenade boat docks and walkways stretch out into the lagoon…

We will not reinvent how people buildings water and commerce interact - Venice is doing this for 1500 years successfully we will just introduce modern concrete shell honeycomb structures into the established concept.

I’m sending these pictures today to the designer (these are rough images to give her an idea of what we want):

  1. shot of the seastead from a high angle to capture the entirety of it.
    Includes: lens, 2 avenues, marina with small sailboats and a couple
    large mega-yachts, house boats, additional modules? Park? Concert hall?
    Resort module?

    Note: Needs more boats, a marina with docks in the lower left corner, some large yachts docked on the bottom right corner. Top right is a commercial area for more commercial boats. Need a helipad (square) docked on the left (with incoming helicopter). The water needs to show waves all around the outside but calm waters inside and no waves forming a “V” at the bottom.

  2. shot of the seastead from the view of someone walking around above, jet skis and activity in the water

    Note: Needs to be cleaned up, can have the same marina set up as before but with jet skis in the foreground and a boat with someone water skiing in the background.

  3. shot of the lens from the interior, including some shops, cafe, etc.

    Note: Very rough shot needs to be cleaned up, needs lighting and a “mall like atmosphere” with a cafe to the center/right and entrance to stores on each level to the left. This one needs the most creative license.
    See this page for sample pictures:
    http://nautilusmaker.discoursehosting.net/t/inside-view-for-investor-talk-floating-shell-honeycomb/705

  4. shot of a person working at a desk in their house boat with a big
    window beyond leading out to the seastead in the near distance, showing
    the avenue going to it

    Note: Needs a shot of a person working at a desk in their house boat with a big window showing something similar to this view with the walkway going to the seastead. The walkway needs activity, the corner on the left should be an ice cream shop with mother/father walking with a child eating ice cream. Outdoor cafe with people sitting at small tables.

  5. shot of the seastead from the view of someone swimming, with dolphins; maybe snorkeling, scuba?


    Note: This view with something like the bottom picture.

Actually the bottom pic with the dolphins is a good pull out. We don’t need to see the lens in every pic. We also want to see someone one living at home in the marina. Dolphins with a house float background would be good.

The one I liked for the interior of the lens is the 7th pic down on the thread “Inside view for investor talk floating shell honeycomb”. Has a mall look yet circular. If we own that, we could use it as is.

@bob, can you please post a link to the picture you are talking about ? is assume it its this ? correct ? the thread is here

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That is the one. +++++++++

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@elwartowski, instead of these extreme thin, extreme low, super weak arms that have “half the size of a small boat” in your pictures, and are for sure “falling short to protect a harbor” you might consider something like this:

remember to have all those super weak boats and c-shells inside you need to offer “fishpond conditions” in the lagoon when a hurricane comes in, creates a 30 foot storm surge and the waves go over those low laying sandbanks in cay sal. The reason that these are sandbanks and not palm islands is that they get “overwashed from time to time”. So long term plant life (like palm trees) can not exist.


Also keep in mind those c-shells inside the lagoon have no place to run to when a hurricane comes - so they need to be perfectly protected right where they are inside the lagoon


We can not change the program at this late state but when we build, it will be to teach us what these structures can take. The one Wil just posted above will most likely be what we end up with for the deep water (Our Own Country) version. The lens may end up free floating in the protected wake of a large Ramform but right now, we need to get the oars in the water. If we have to change it later then, we will but for now, we need to get our pilot project launched.

The c shell houseboats are just pictures. The real floats may have 4 to 6 houses and will be big enough to handle a good wave, inside the marina of course. After we finish with the pics for the website, we may want to begin talking about the housefloats.

I think it might be a concept error to make a final statement about the concept on the beginning of a project that is supposed to be a city with a lot of concepts and options in the end.

So instead of “arbitray picking out a thing” we just should limit to point out that there is wide arrow of options ( shells shell clusters, lens, ramforms, combinations of all the mentioned) which all will have their “adequate frame of application” - it seems only necessary to send a signal that we “understand the basics” which means that you can not park “fishpond marina architecture” like C-shells and open walkways unprotected in the middle of hurricane alley… at the end our business case is “solving the ocean colonization bottleneck

Envision the Arms (avenues) rather then open marina typ walkways something tubular like this foto with a “hard side” that can take waves looking outwards and the “soft open glass side” looking inside to the lagoon

We can certainly continue upgrading the images when Mati gets back. But we have to go with what we have now so we can actually start looking for investors. I’d rather not wait another 6 months.

When we get the final model we can always spend another $300 to get another set of pictures. I agree we should have a final concept instead of having a bunch of options. I never once saw on Shark Tank someone walk in with a bunch of pictures of products that they “could make” and hope that the investors tell them what they want made.

I would think that it is our job to have a product to sell. We can’t expect investors to decide for us.

http://nautilusmaker.discoursehosting.net/uploads/db7580/optimized/2X/7/79cfa2a98561f57b6bab6dfc0537c9ce4046da19_1_690x414.jpg

keep it close to the original - if possible … that was a good design…alterate only what is strictly necessary - avoid to go beyond realistic with the pictures…

That’s where Mati needs to come in, I can only do basic things on Sketchup. I can only work with what he provides me.

As far as hurricanes go, do we really need to be too worried about 30 foot waves? I have a house on the ocean. It is on 14 foot stilts. I don’t worry about 30 foot waves. I worry sometimes when hurricanes are on their way, my plan was always to move my stuff upstairs and evacuate if there was a hurricane incoming. But I didn’t build a fortress to withstand a hurricane. Hardly anyone on the coast does.

The 30ft is for the storm surge not for wave height - waves can be signifficantly higher .

When we talked of this in the past, I argued for a safe room so the platforms could go under a wave and the inhabitants would be safe. This is like a tornado in Kansas, they go underground.

Look at the tubular house, http://nautilusmaker.discoursehosting.net/uploads/db7580/650/adb199baeb3c822f.jpg

Picture this built on a 100’ X100’ (30m X 30m) platform with appropriate walls around the edge. This could go under a wave, replace some glass and furniture and you’re ready to go. We just have to remember to not have any edges on anything.
A tubular house like this will weather hurricanes as well as any. Little less glass of course. So long as each float has a water tight area to go to if bad weather comes, we should be alright.
Bob

yes a tubular shell bubble concept is pretty much what is “required minimum” for hurricane alley…

http://nautilusmaker.discoursehosting.net/uploads/db7580/optimized/2X/7/7ec5883d4b80bf66a7803403d0f101d2c930d09b_1_690x319.jpg

http://nautilusmaker.discoursehosting.net/uploads/db7580/optimized/2X/b/be6ea06080cfb7d8a46c37239c5daac1eb407fa5_1_690x319.jpg

platforms are ok as honeycomb shell platform where people can go “under deck” in severe weather


proposing something like “fishpond marina” for “hurricane alley” is a bit “exposing our project to be ridiculized”… what is not a good business plan - so whenever we make a graphic statement paint such things INSIDE the protected lagoon of a ramform - NEVER outside and unprotected…

fishpond marina is a great concept for Cartagena Bay

which is a super protected bay OUTSIDE the hurricane routes - it is not feasible for Cay Sal which is in the center of the hurricane routes.